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    Libellous "hit articles" by Basileus

    Basileus has been using Metapedia for several years to just attack Wikipedia Admin. This is because he's a banned troll from Wikipedia who socks there on countless accounts. In response he's been uploading Wikipedia admin photos (copyright violations), doxxing and just posting mostly libel or false accusations against them:

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Orangemike
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Dave_Snowden

    Honestly don't have time to go through all his pages, but he has loads more like the above. By no means am I saying Wikipedia admin are all pleasant, and its well known some are biased and come into conflict on certain topics or pages, but Basileus has just been creating countless libellous articles against loads of Wikipedia sysops.

    Countless copyright violations on his other articles can also be found under the following category:

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Categor...obic_agitators

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    These pages should be removed. A criteria for posting an article on a person is that there is a public interest about this person. That he is known by the public. No Wikipedia administrator is that. Metapedia is not a tool for personal vendettas.

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    Good points. I agree such articles should be removed, and we just added a new rule about this category of articles:

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Metaped...ent_guidelines

    Articles about individuals should fulfill the following two prerequisites to be suitable for Metapedia (and if not, they should be removed):

    1. The individual should be of significant public interest.
    2. The article should not be libelous in character, contain any copyrighted photos or in other ways be in breach of any laws.
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    I see the list posted Krom here appears to be from https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Basileus
    It's a symptom someone is doing something wrong if it ends up there.


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    1. The individual should be of significant public interest.
    2. The article should not be libelous in character, contain any copyrighted photos or in other ways be in breach of any laws.
    Of the ones listed so far: Chip Berlet, Jennifer Izaakson, Jacob Bard-Rosenberg are the only ones with news articles, which would show notability.

    The copyrighted photos thing is a pain. 99.9% of the photos on Metapedia are copyrighted. I don't think deleting them all is a good idea. One defense even Wikipedia uses is fair use, and commentary on something makes it fair use. On http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Persons_of_Jewry there's a lot of photos, and I believe to my knowledge if we simply add commentary describing the jewish features on each of their faces it would make it fair use.

    As for copyright issues, Conservapedia says "Metapedia sets forth no reliable copyright policy" and that's pretty much correct.

    Just for reference it generally focuses on issues of copying content from Wikipedia:
    http://www.conservapedia.com/Metapedia
    "Metapedia sets forth no reliable copyright policy. Editors are allowed to copy and slightly modify material from Wikipedia. Articles edited in this way are then released under the GNU Free Documentation License as is required. "

    Rationalwiki too:

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Metapedia
    "The Hungarian Metapedia is the largest language version of Metapedia containing roughly 150,000 articles it claims to be written from a pro-European perspective. In reality, the majority of the articles are copies of Wikipedia articles."
    "Metapedia has few active editors, and much of its content is copied from Wikipedia"

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    Wikipedia's own very strict policy on fair use says that the images would need commentary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...content#Images

    I went through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use again for fair use. From what I can tell that since Metapedia is not a commercial enterprise, as long as an image doesn't cause a target to lose money from a copyrighted work, it could be fair use.

    Metapedia's own policies are unclear. Before I noticed Aurvandil I had thought that a fair use image of a subject was fine but well this http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?...v&oldid=338999 and then the Veronica Clark had Hu1 desysopped for adding it. So if a single copyrighted photo of a person for their article isn't fair use or simply isn't allowed, it should be spelled out.

    I know that on some places it says not to use any copyrighted images, however I have never seen anyone on the English metapedia abiding by this. Everyone has previously ignored it. So I thought it was ignored. Images are not tagged with copyright like it says to http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Metapedia:Community_portal If all the images need to be tagged and sorted through, it will be a lot of work.

    If 99.9% of the images on the English metapedia need to be deleted, it will be bad for the wiki. Hopefully there will be a way to keep the images such as fair use. Or an image released anonymously on the internet with no way to prove or determine who made it. Or for instance if someone naturally supports metapedia makes for instance a chart on human evolution (e.g. David Duke, The Daily Stormer, The Occidental Observer, Alex Linder), they wouldn't have an issue with its use.

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    Citat Ursprungligen postat av A Wyatt Man Visa inlägg
    Metapedia's own policies are unclear. Before I noticed Aurvandil I had thought that a fair use image of a subject was fine but well this http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?...v&oldid=338999 and then the Veronica Clark had Hu1 desysopped for adding it. So if a single copyrighted photo of a person for their article isn't fair use or simply isn't allowed, it should be spelled out.

    I know that on some places it says not to use any copyrighted images, however I have never seen anyone on the English metapedia abiding by this. Everyone has previously ignored it. So I thought it was ignored. Images are not tagged with copyright like it says to http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Metapedia:Community_portal If all the images need to be tagged and sorted through, it will be a lot of work.
    Yes. The Metapedia rules clearly state that the use of copyrighted images are not allowed. It's a shame that only a few contributors have taken these rules seriously, since the constant stream of DMCA complaints from individuals and lawyers are giving me and others at the Metapedia international staff a headache. It would be great if we could gradually change this.

    Starting with removing/replacing all copyrighted images of living individuals would most likely eliminate 95 % of all complaints.
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    Pages that need to be deleted:

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Lewis
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hutcheon
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Andy_Carrington
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Weller
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Collins
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Joe_Mulhall
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Sam_Tarry
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Trilling
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Ketlan_Ossowski
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/John_Cartwright
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Sabby_Dhalu

    Only about 1% of Basileus contributions are not 'hit articles' containing libel or copyrighted images against non-noticeable people. His entry on Stephen Shapiro is probably a good example. Shapiro is the far left-wing crank who made world-headlines when he wrote an academic paper claiming Lord of the Rings is somehow racist (the "orcs" are meant to resemble blacks in his warped mind or something as idiotic). Loons like that really do deserve an article criticizing them. But 99% of the rest of Basileus' pages are just inappropriate.

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    I call for Basileus to be perm-blocked/indef banned, not for just 3 months. Have you guys yet looked at the extent of his abuse?

    There are multiple hundred or even a thousand pages/edits to remove of his (copyright violations, libel, personal attacks). Furthermore Basileus appears as stupid as Hu1 and has been calling virtually everyone Jewish:

    Kenneth Robert Livingstone✡ (born 17 June 1945), better known as Ken Livingstone, is a communist Jew agitator, politican and terrorist group leader in the United Kingdom.
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Ken_Livingstone

    Livingstone is not Jewish and has no known Jewish ancestry. Is Basileus intoxicated or just a troll/vandal? He's called loads of other people Jewish who are not.

    Basileus' source for Livingstone being Jewish is this:

    http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/art...stone_inte.htm

    There has been this theory that you are Jewish?

    I know, and it would be lovely to find out. We know my grandmother was born in 1888 in London, which was the exactly the time that vast numbers of refugees were coming in from the Tzar. So it could have been. As I said, religion has played no part in my life. But it would be fun to know. Then I could be a self-hater, couldn’t I
    Can he read? Livingstone just says he doesn't know the ancestry of his grandmother and speculates she could be a Jewish refugee, she equally could have been non-Jewish - he doesn't know.

    LMAO. According to Basileus, David Cameron is also a Jew.

    http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?...1&oldid=279300

    Cameron's Jewish ancestry is from 500 years ago. His great-great grandfather x 10 or something was Jewish.

    The prime minister’s Jewish heritage was first revealed in 2009, when one of Britain’s leading rabbinical authorities, Yaakov Wise, of Manchester University’s Centre for Jewish Studies, traced Mr Cameron’s family tree back to the 16th-century Jewish scholar Elijah Levita.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-novelist.html

    Hu1 and Basileus think if you have a Jewish ancestor hundreds or a thousand years ago that makes you Jewish. Hu1 and Basileus for all they know probably have a distant Jewish ancestor, so by their logic they are Jews. Get rid of dumb & dumber... they have just been inserting this sort of insanity and crackpottery across metapedia for years.
    Senast redigerad av Krom den 2014-11-24 klockan 22:15.

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    You are right. Creating an article about every person that have made a stupid comment or have some sort of affiliation with a anti-racist or left wing organisation. Is to give these people more signifigance than they deserve. And again no one outside the nationalist movement knows about these people. There are a few high proifile activists that may deserve an article but they can be counted on one hands fingers.

    In what way are this man for example, who is retired, deserving an article on Metapedia?

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Weller

    And the photos of these people are probably copyright protected. Just as you say.

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    Livingstone is not Jewish and has no known Jewish ancestry. Is Basileus intoxicated or just a troll/vandal? He's called loads of other people Jewish who are not.
    I have noticed that the description "communist jew" is in every other biography. Relly, really tiresome.

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    What about this description of Winston Churchill?

    There are absolutely no positives at all about the life, times and actions of Winston Spencer-Churchill. He stands out before the world as a posterboy for the utter uselessness of kosher conservatism. Some patriots have tried to utilise the imagery and soundbites of Churchillism, for instance, the BNP during the mid-2000s and "Battle of Britain" rhetoric, to try and make some use of the old drunken poof cretin in death, but the effectiveness of this is questionable. Others try to pick up a few ethnocentric comments made by Churchill to try and put a positive spin on him, however, Churchill as a Conservative Party Colonel Blimp who supported the British Commonwealth project was himself directly responsible for Black Africans immigrating to Britain from the West Indies during the 1950s. Some of the children of these immigrants then became members of parliament who then passed laws paving the way for even more mass immigration, such as Diane Abbott. An article he wrote in 1920, Zionism versus Bolshevism. A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People[3], has some use in helping to introduce extremely brainwashed people to the fact that Bolshevism is Jewish, but the conclusions that he draws from this in the article itself are somewhat dubious.
    Who can take these remarks seriously? It is like a drunk skinhead trying to explain who Churchill was. Hateful and aggressive remarks that no-one outside the skinhead family can take seriously.

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    lol! View the edit history of Winston. Hu1 also called him a Jew and added the (J) sign tag, which Basileus did not revert and went along with.

    http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?...5&oldid=136631

    Sometime however it seems to have been reverted by another admin or poster.

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    It will probably take months to clean english Metapedia up.

    I did not know this was so bad. Perhaps there are more language versions that need an overhaul.

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    Citat Ursprungligen postat av Krom Visa inlägg
    lol! View the edit history of Winston. Hu1 also called him a Jew and added the (J) sign tag, which Basileus did not revert and went along with.

    http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?...5&oldid=136631

    Sometime however it seems to have been reverted by another admin or poster.

    Basileus removed it.
    http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?...2&oldid=193991



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    I call for Basileus to be perm-blocked/indef banned, not for just 3 months. Have you guys yet looked at the extent of his abuse?
    Who's going to clean it up then?

    While Upplysning likes deleting things, he also likes to write articles. He doesn't have unlimited time. There's few editors there and little editing. And Krom, no user with your name exists on the English, Swedish, or German metapedia so I take it you simply don't like Metapedia, so you wouldn't clean things up.

    It's a lot of work. Wouldn't Hu1, Galileo, Basileus would want to clean things up to earn their adminiship back? Or at least be liked?


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    LMAO. According to Basileus, David Cameron is also a Jew.

    http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?...1&oldid=279300

    Cameron's Jewish ancestry is from 500 years ago. His great-great grandfather x 10 or something was Jewish.

    Cameron's great-great-grandfather was Jewish, not 500 years ago. He has often mentioned it.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-novelist.html
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ancestors.html
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/why-bri...her-jewish-pm/
    http://empirestrikesblack.com/2014/0...-him-to-power/
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...t-remarks.html

    It's not original to Basileus
    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22d...gbv=1&safe=off
    http://www.dailystormer.com/tag/david-cameron-is-a-jew/

    He was ranked 6 out of 10 by the Jews themselves as being a Jew.
    http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=829



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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-novelist.html

    Hu1 and Basileus think if you have a Jewish ancestor hundreds or a thousand years ago that makes you Jewish. Hu1 and Basileus for all they know probably have a distant Jewish ancestor, so by their logic they are Jews. Get rid of dumb & dumber... they have just been inserting this sort of insanity and crackpottery across metapedia for years.
    After claiming 500 years ago, you linked to the article which said great-great-grandfather, which even shows claiming 500 years ago was you being dishonest like the thing with Churchill above about Basileus not removing it.

    Wikipedia dates it to the late 19th century. Wikipedia says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron
    David Cameron's great-great-grandfather Emile Levita, a German Jewish financier (and descendant of Renaissance scholar Elia Levita), who obtained British citizenship in 1871


    Some of these things have been going around in white nationalist circles. Perhaps there's outside groups giving ideas rather than Basileus himself?


    ----

    Mr Spoof,

    http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?...3&oldid=381991
    This isn't helping. You replaced it with an old Wikipedia paste from many years ago.

    It's well known he's a Zionist.


    He's said the British parliament was "too white".
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...d-Cameron.html

    Cameron said, "MPs do not represent the people of Britain properly because they are too white," but he has also said, "There are so many Jews at the top of Britain’s Conservative party that it should be known as the Torah party rather than the Tory party."
    http://www.dailystormer.com/david-ca...-too-jew-good/

    He started replacing white men with nonwhites and women
    http://www.dailystormer.com/cameron-...em-with-women/

    He also implemented a new "Happiness Index" saying the more nonwhite friends a person has the happier they are
    http://www.dailystormer.com/cameron-...to-non-whites/

    "It is mainstream Britain which needs to integrate more with the British Asian way of life, not the other way around."
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...igrationpolicy

    "The UK may be rated as the best place in Europe for LGBT equality – but there still remains much more to be done. We press ahead– for example- with our work on homophobic bullying in schools and we continue to challenge governments where outright persecution of gay people is commonplace"
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Saturday.html

    He promised to bring in more immigrants.
    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/polit...s-8963279.html

    He granted illegal aliens citizenship if they can remain in Britain for 5 years.
    http://www.dailystormer.com/800000-i...der-coalition/


    So you think all this is bad to mention?!??
    Senast redigerad av A Wyatt Man den 2014-11-25 klockan 09:47.

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