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    500 million Jews worldwide according to Metapedia?

    English Metapedia claims that there are 350-500 million Jews worldwide.

    "For example in Hungary between 1783 and 1910 Jews increased each year by 2%, that corresponds to a population increase by 11. The Hungarian people increased only yearly by 1-5%, therefore Jews population increase was above the local population increase. Even today has Hungary a sad record: Jewish population in percent is 0.5%, which is the third highest on Earth after Israel and the USA. Considering the enormous Jewish financial and cultural influence it is impossible, that the "14 million" number is correct. It is very likely, that Jews operate with factors 10..30 to decept others about their number (they show 10 to 30 times less persons than they exist in reality. If we assume a factor 25, then their correct count is today around 350 million World wide, therefore the official numbers are to be considered as strategical misinformation. The German Metapedia uses the factor 37.5, and estimates the correct count as 500 millions.[14]. It is interesting to look at the Georgia Guidestones which is very likely set by Jews.

    The above "official" numbers simply forget to mention at least 25.000 Jews living in Morocco, show less than the half of the at least 25.000 Jews living in Iran, show less than one third of the 325.000 Jews living in Germany, less than one fifth of the 400.000 Jews living in Hungary, less than one third of the at least 18 million Jews living in the USA, and so on. [15] [16][17] "
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jews#Jewish_population

    None of the last three sources are actually sources but just more ramblings. The link to the German Metapedia goes to a section saying the same thing without giving any sources:
    http://de.metapedia.org/wiki/Juden#A...r.C3.B6.C3.9Fe

    So there are no sources at all supporting the claims. The "estimate" is completely arbitrary with the numbers invented out of thin air. Could as well have stated that there are 50 000 Jews or 5 billion Jews.

    The real reason for giving such high numbers is given in one of the sentences "Considering the enormous Jewish financial and cultural influence it is impossible, that the "14 million" number is correct." In other words, the author(s) FEEL without having any actual evidence that there must be an enormous numbers of Jews in order to explain their influence.

    This is a very strange conclusion. If the Jews have the capacity to completely hide 485 million Jews from the official records, then they should also be able to completely hide their influence or completely silence their critics.

    One reason for the high Jewish influence is the high average measured IQ of Ashkenazi Jews.
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...6028960600033X

    The same reason (high average IQ) have been given for the the very large influence of Chinese minorities in Southeast Asia where they to a large degree controls the local economies. No one is claiming that this is explained by there being an enormous "hidden" Chinese population in the countries. Of course, there may be several other possible explanations for the Jewish influence (nepotism, personality etc) but an enormous "hidden" populations seems an extremely unlikely one.

    Anyway, I think Metapedia losses a lot of credibility by stating these weird and extremely large numbers as "very likely" when they are actually based on no evidence at all. Looks almost like an entry that could have been inserted by an infiltrator in order to discredit Metapedia.
    Senast redigerad av Upplysning den 2014-06-07 klockan 15:38.

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    I can only agree. The inflated figures seem to be something made up out of thin air by the author of the article (or that particular section of it). And yes, things like this will of course make any scholarly person look upon Metapedia with utter contempt -- and rightly so, if too many articles are contaminated in a similar manner, which I certainly hope isn't the case.
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    The good thing about wikis is that if you find an error you can directly correct it yourself.


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    There are (jewish) sources indicating jews should hide their real numbers, for whatever religious-political-strategic reasons. I wouldn't be surprised if the real number for the US is higher than the official 2 %, for example. 500 million worldwide seems a number some magnitudes too high though, I agree.

    It is forbidden to count Israel even for [the purpose of fulfilling] a commandment ... Whosoever counts Israel, transgresses a [biblical] prohibition, as it is said: Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured. ..
    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.b...r-numbers.html
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    The valid question is, what is their real number? Probably, an over estimation - in this case- helps research to find the real number. 14 millions is for sure rather underestimated.

    Upplysning seems to be more behind bad-mouthing and accusing people, who add something to metapedia, than to find the truth. Also, Upplysning seems to admire the "high IQ" jews, those wonderful people.
    Senast redigerad av Hu1 den 2014-11-11 klockan 11:42.

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    The valid question is, what is their real number? Probably, an over estimation - in this case- helps research to find the real number. 14 millions is for sure rather underestimated.

    Upplysning seems to be more behind bad-mouthing and accusing people, who add something to metapedia, than to find the truth. Also, Upplysning seems to admire the "high IQ" jews, those wonderful people.
    Inserting that it is "very likely" that there are 500 million Jews as you did just make the Metapedia look like a junk encyclopedia and joke.[http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?...&oldid=159955] The other material and so called "sources" that you have also added to the section are just more garbage as I have noted previously in my first post.

    Looking at the talk page of the article, you have in past constantly claimed that theses numbers are correct and accused anyone of wanting some kind of actual proof for you crackpot theories and crackpot numbers of being Jews och Jew-lovers (and you make the some accusation now). If you have now changed your mind (after your garbage material has received some attention here) it would be appropriate that you changed the contents of the section to something reasonable. It still states the same garbage numbers as previously.

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    Missing the slightest verifyable data in your message.
    Just words like "joke" "Junk" "garbage" "crackpot theories" "crackpot numbers" "your garbage material" etc....

    Please write again, when you have verifiable data and numbers, and please try to avoid fecal language.

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    I completely agree with "Upplysning" here, as well as in the IQ debate in the other thread.

    It seems the English Metapedia edition is in need of a substantial amount of quality assurance. Anyone who are interested in helping out with this, feel free to contact me.
    “We are entering a time when words must be authenticated by deeds.” —Dominique Venner

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    Inserting that it is "very likely" that there are 500 million Jews as you did just make the Metapedia look like a junk encyclopedia and joke.[http://en.metapedia.org/m/index.php?...&oldid=159955] The other material and so called "sources" that you have also added to the section are just more garbage as I have noted previously in my first post.
    Please see my thread on Mikemikev. The English Metapedia is not even moderated properly, they gave admin rights to a nutcase who was banned, and then banned again on a sock, but let him return on countless sockpuppets.

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    How do you make sure, that the persons, who want to do quality assurance, are really experts in the subjects, they work with?

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    How do you make sure, that the persons, who want to do quality assurance, are really experts in the subjects, they work with?
    They don't have to be experts in any subject to correct blatantly false claims (like the one about "500 million Jews") and to change inappropriate articles. They just have to be decent writers, have good judgement, and - most importantly - follow the Metapedia guidelines.
    “We are entering a time when words must be authenticated by deeds.” —Dominique Venner

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