Aptrgangr
2007-12-14, 08:37
In this thread I would like to discuss whether Israel's inevitable fall is a benefit for us or not. Israels struggles with a dwindling birthrate, the birthrate of Muslim Arabs within Israel's borders is about three times as high than the Jewish one. This fact will cause severe consequences for Jews living in Israel. In Gaza, West-Jordan and all other Muslim countries and communities in the occupied countries birthrate is is rising, millions of Muslim men and women are a valuable pool of human resouce that can be recruited by Jihadists; those young Muslims are healthy and fed thanks to the international community, especially the EU.
Due to a superior military and massive support by the Western states Israel could prevail this far, but I do not expect this situation to be continued more than 30, maybe 50 years. The more Muslims live in a state the weaker it is, and the weaker domestic policy can be, the result is economic weakness, high crime rate and a general hostile atmosphere. The more Israel struggles with that the more Jews will leave Israel and head to a place where a strong Jewish community exists and strong Jewish structures have been built up: -> USA, with consequences for us in Europe.
I expect Israel to resist longer than the decadent Europeans will due to the extraordinary low amount of Dhimmis among their people. In fact the amount of Jews having detected in what danger they live is much higher compared to the Whites (Europeans and colonials of European ancestry) - most Whites still afford the luxury of reality-denying - and if truth has been found out whites mostly lack to see the consequences of their doing. I do not only refer to Shabbos Goym believing their policy of a colourful, diverse multicultural society prevents their masters from being attacked, also Dhimmis among WN/NS and left-wing nationalist are to be blamed for scaring off people being interested in White survival i.e. national politics and heritage projects by praising their Muslim masters.
One thing never may be forgotten: either Israel will be conquered by Muslims before Europe is conquered by Muslims - this would mean anything but a stop of the Muslim conquest in general. Or, Israel will fall in the hands of Muslims bevor Europe will - then the bases in the "Golden Apple" will be used to highten the pressure on Israel. From what I have read Muslim recruiters are also very busy in the USA, especially many Latinos convert->
Olé to Allah: Hisham Aidi profiles New York's thriving Latino Muslim convert community (http://www.islamfortoday.com/ole.htm)
NEW ISLAMIC MOVEMENT SEEKS LATINO CONVERTS (http://www.jannah.org/articles/latinmuslims.html)
but USA will resist Islamic pressure much more than decadent Europe and Canada because in large parts of the USA Christianity still is intact. A while ago I have posted this in another forum - I also post it here to your friendly attention:
I have a question to those believing Jews control all and everything: why should Jews promote muliculturalism, when they also are effected by the obvious negative consequences? I mean, in what interest would it be for Jews to import millions of Muslims to Germany? Germany e.g. delivers the worldīs most sophisticated Hydrogen-driven submarines to Israel, a Muslim ruled 3rd world-chaos state Sultanate Almanya never would deliver this to Israel, not only because of the politics the state promotes, also because of the racial decline - there would be noone left being able to develop such sort of vessels. There are evil Jews around, thereīs enough evidence many Jews are corrupt and involved in the organized crime, especially those came to Germany from the former Soviet Union. It is also true Jews enjoy greater protection in Germany than Germans, judges often enough do not dare to prosecute Jews to avoid being called anti-semitic. And there are Jews busy engaged with promoting multiculturalism. But there are also non-multiculturalist Jews, wanting to run their business without bothering anyone and without racemixing (and without ruling the world).
All this what I have posted about Jews is also true for Muslims. They are allowed to preach: Germans are stinking and low beings - without being prosecuted, you can imagine how fast Police would catch me if I would say: Muslims are stinking and low beings, in my own country. There are Muslim gangs raping and commititng crimes every day, many no longer get jailed as jails are too full with them, and politicians are keen to provide information Muslims/foreigners are not more criminal than natives. One trick they use is that they say Turks with German passports are Germans and no longer count them as foreigners. I have met some Jews in my life, e.g. in school, they were intelligent, decent and friendly persons, and I sometimes dealt them rough.
All Muslims I met so far, and I can promise there is no lack of them around here, tried to provoke me with words like (sorry, but I want to be authentic) "blonde c+nthead", "f+cking German", "we will get you soon" and so on, without having been provoced by me. (To make it more clear: they automatically feel provoked when they see me and are not alone). Even negroes do not behave this way, but Muslims always behave this way, no matter what race they belong to. The Turks/Arabs I met thisfar being decent people were Kemalistic Atheists and/or Christians (and female mostly). Even Muslim females bother me with anti-social behaviour. One time I really was attacked by a (male) Muslim gang, they gave me thrashing/stabbing for my life - and helped me to open my eyes. In school teachers only said I should be more tolerant, those poor foreigner kids are socially underprivileged. In the school I was one time a girl was pushed by two guys into a corner and pissed on, must I mention this was done by Muslims? I think this is clear. Of course, the director of school and teachers did everything to hush up this incident, visitors from other schools were no longer allowed to visit school, as if the students from the neighbouring grammar-school would have caused any problems, and the girl got the best or second best school-leaving-exmination I have heard...
When I look to Israel I see they have similar problems like we have, a low birth-rate and a high birth-rate of Muslims in their own land. Jews here also have a very low birth-rate, the reason why Jews became more here is Germany allowed Jews from the former Soviet Union to come here in masses. But this number is by far lower than the number of Muslims invading my land.
I feel disgust towards all semitic religions, when I read e.g. the bible I can clearly say the semitic god Jahwe/Allah is a worthless peace of trash, at least the Christians do not worship a murdering and child-molesting bandit of the dunes. I often read Jews control media, they have a great influence, that is very true, but what the media say is not always in favour of Israel, often enough there are reports about Israeli crimes in Palestine, and I hardly hear any reports about criminal Muslims but TV is full of picures with Muslims celebrating the "holy Ashuah" festivity - I do not know itīs exact name - the festivity they hit themselves and children with some sort of flails and blades. Many NS are happy the Iranian president said Israel should be destroyed, they also seem to be happy "Mein Kampf" is a bestseller there, and of course they celebrate the fact simple desert people deny the warcrimes having been committed during the 3rd Reich. When I talk to (some) NS saying Arabs also are semites so it does not make sense to ally with them I often hear I have to see the "varied character".I can not express how fed up I am always to see a varied character, multiculuralists say I have to see the varied character of things, NS say I have to see the varied character of things...
Muslims are securing their own sharia-law areas, I havenīt a clue why Jews could have been interested in this? It may not be forgotten Muslims threatened Europe from the beginning of their existence.
Fact is Jews fear Muslim immigration (one time a Synogogue was attacked by Muslims, media said Neonazis did it because of the swastikas painted on itīs wall - of what benefit would it for the media Jews to say this?), except those who are muliculturalists, I think the greatest threat for us is the own decadence, expressed in: multiculturalism, liberalism, unlimited capitalism etc. If the own society would be healthy, those crappy ideologies would have no chance. It is no secret media censores news in order to make Muslims look friendly. The goal behind this is to make the ppl believe they easily can be integrated here.
I also fail to see of what benefit it is for the Jews when FRG judges obey to Sharia rules here:
Johann Hari: How multiculturalism is betraying women - Independent Online Edition (http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/johann_hari/article2496657.ece)
The federal court here just decided last week that the call for Jihad, the Islamic holy war, no longer is punishable.
Due to a superior military and massive support by the Western states Israel could prevail this far, but I do not expect this situation to be continued more than 30, maybe 50 years. The more Muslims live in a state the weaker it is, and the weaker domestic policy can be, the result is economic weakness, high crime rate and a general hostile atmosphere. The more Israel struggles with that the more Jews will leave Israel and head to a place where a strong Jewish community exists and strong Jewish structures have been built up: -> USA, with consequences for us in Europe.
I expect Israel to resist longer than the decadent Europeans will due to the extraordinary low amount of Dhimmis among their people. In fact the amount of Jews having detected in what danger they live is much higher compared to the Whites (Europeans and colonials of European ancestry) - most Whites still afford the luxury of reality-denying - and if truth has been found out whites mostly lack to see the consequences of their doing. I do not only refer to Shabbos Goym believing their policy of a colourful, diverse multicultural society prevents their masters from being attacked, also Dhimmis among WN/NS and left-wing nationalist are to be blamed for scaring off people being interested in White survival i.e. national politics and heritage projects by praising their Muslim masters.
One thing never may be forgotten: either Israel will be conquered by Muslims before Europe is conquered by Muslims - this would mean anything but a stop of the Muslim conquest in general. Or, Israel will fall in the hands of Muslims bevor Europe will - then the bases in the "Golden Apple" will be used to highten the pressure on Israel. From what I have read Muslim recruiters are also very busy in the USA, especially many Latinos convert->
Olé to Allah: Hisham Aidi profiles New York's thriving Latino Muslim convert community (http://www.islamfortoday.com/ole.htm)
NEW ISLAMIC MOVEMENT SEEKS LATINO CONVERTS (http://www.jannah.org/articles/latinmuslims.html)
but USA will resist Islamic pressure much more than decadent Europe and Canada because in large parts of the USA Christianity still is intact. A while ago I have posted this in another forum - I also post it here to your friendly attention:
I have a question to those believing Jews control all and everything: why should Jews promote muliculturalism, when they also are effected by the obvious negative consequences? I mean, in what interest would it be for Jews to import millions of Muslims to Germany? Germany e.g. delivers the worldīs most sophisticated Hydrogen-driven submarines to Israel, a Muslim ruled 3rd world-chaos state Sultanate Almanya never would deliver this to Israel, not only because of the politics the state promotes, also because of the racial decline - there would be noone left being able to develop such sort of vessels. There are evil Jews around, thereīs enough evidence many Jews are corrupt and involved in the organized crime, especially those came to Germany from the former Soviet Union. It is also true Jews enjoy greater protection in Germany than Germans, judges often enough do not dare to prosecute Jews to avoid being called anti-semitic. And there are Jews busy engaged with promoting multiculturalism. But there are also non-multiculturalist Jews, wanting to run their business without bothering anyone and without racemixing (and without ruling the world).
All this what I have posted about Jews is also true for Muslims. They are allowed to preach: Germans are stinking and low beings - without being prosecuted, you can imagine how fast Police would catch me if I would say: Muslims are stinking and low beings, in my own country. There are Muslim gangs raping and commititng crimes every day, many no longer get jailed as jails are too full with them, and politicians are keen to provide information Muslims/foreigners are not more criminal than natives. One trick they use is that they say Turks with German passports are Germans and no longer count them as foreigners. I have met some Jews in my life, e.g. in school, they were intelligent, decent and friendly persons, and I sometimes dealt them rough.
All Muslims I met so far, and I can promise there is no lack of them around here, tried to provoke me with words like (sorry, but I want to be authentic) "blonde c+nthead", "f+cking German", "we will get you soon" and so on, without having been provoced by me. (To make it more clear: they automatically feel provoked when they see me and are not alone). Even negroes do not behave this way, but Muslims always behave this way, no matter what race they belong to. The Turks/Arabs I met thisfar being decent people were Kemalistic Atheists and/or Christians (and female mostly). Even Muslim females bother me with anti-social behaviour. One time I really was attacked by a (male) Muslim gang, they gave me thrashing/stabbing for my life - and helped me to open my eyes. In school teachers only said I should be more tolerant, those poor foreigner kids are socially underprivileged. In the school I was one time a girl was pushed by two guys into a corner and pissed on, must I mention this was done by Muslims? I think this is clear. Of course, the director of school and teachers did everything to hush up this incident, visitors from other schools were no longer allowed to visit school, as if the students from the neighbouring grammar-school would have caused any problems, and the girl got the best or second best school-leaving-exmination I have heard...
When I look to Israel I see they have similar problems like we have, a low birth-rate and a high birth-rate of Muslims in their own land. Jews here also have a very low birth-rate, the reason why Jews became more here is Germany allowed Jews from the former Soviet Union to come here in masses. But this number is by far lower than the number of Muslims invading my land.
I feel disgust towards all semitic religions, when I read e.g. the bible I can clearly say the semitic god Jahwe/Allah is a worthless peace of trash, at least the Christians do not worship a murdering and child-molesting bandit of the dunes. I often read Jews control media, they have a great influence, that is very true, but what the media say is not always in favour of Israel, often enough there are reports about Israeli crimes in Palestine, and I hardly hear any reports about criminal Muslims but TV is full of picures with Muslims celebrating the "holy Ashuah" festivity - I do not know itīs exact name - the festivity they hit themselves and children with some sort of flails and blades. Many NS are happy the Iranian president said Israel should be destroyed, they also seem to be happy "Mein Kampf" is a bestseller there, and of course they celebrate the fact simple desert people deny the warcrimes having been committed during the 3rd Reich. When I talk to (some) NS saying Arabs also are semites so it does not make sense to ally with them I often hear I have to see the "varied character".I can not express how fed up I am always to see a varied character, multiculuralists say I have to see the varied character of things, NS say I have to see the varied character of things...
Muslims are securing their own sharia-law areas, I havenīt a clue why Jews could have been interested in this? It may not be forgotten Muslims threatened Europe from the beginning of their existence.
Fact is Jews fear Muslim immigration (one time a Synogogue was attacked by Muslims, media said Neonazis did it because of the swastikas painted on itīs wall - of what benefit would it for the media Jews to say this?), except those who are muliculturalists, I think the greatest threat for us is the own decadence, expressed in: multiculturalism, liberalism, unlimited capitalism etc. If the own society would be healthy, those crappy ideologies would have no chance. It is no secret media censores news in order to make Muslims look friendly. The goal behind this is to make the ppl believe they easily can be integrated here.
I also fail to see of what benefit it is for the Jews when FRG judges obey to Sharia rules here:
Johann Hari: How multiculturalism is betraying women - Independent Online Edition (http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/johann_hari/article2496657.ece)
The federal court here just decided last week that the call for Jihad, the Islamic holy war, no longer is punishable.